*An on-going series of
putting college QBs through our mathematical
analysis. We don’t have all the needed data
until the 2012 NFL Combine results are
completely in (including most Wonderlic scores
leaked), but we can assume (neutral) some of it
and we have all the game performance/statistics.
See this link for
details on our College QB rating system --
Predicting the Unpredictable…Projecting a
College QB to the NFL with a Mathematical
Formula and
"Searching for the Next Aaron
Rodgers" -- an Update on the 2012 QB class, and
our "College QB Scouting Formula"...
The bar is set high for NFL
QBs all of the sudden (maybe not all of the
sudden). The days of "come in and sit for a
season, or two," are about done.
The media loves Josh
Freeman (2010)...no wait, they don't love
Freeman (2011). Sam Bradford is the next ____
(2010)...no wait, now we need to trade Bradford
(2011). Christian Ponder (2011) was "it" when he
threw for 300+ yards in game that one time this
year, but a few bad games later...and it's now
in question, whether the #12 overall pick in the
2011 NFL Draft is the Vikings future or not.
Ryan Fitzpatrick (first 4 games of 2011) is
"awesome," worthy of a huge contract...several
poor games later, and the Bills are whispered to
be looking for a QB in the 2012 NFL Draft.
People are even down on Mark Sanchez
(2011). Sanchez just had the finest statistical season of his career,
and is coming of two AFC finals appearances...and
has averaged 10+ wins per season in his three
years...but now he has to go. Most fans would
currently rather have Matt Flynn, than 75% of
the leagues current starting QBs...which is the
best example of the impatient-hysteria of NFL
fans (and some NFL executives/owners).
As a society (current day),
instant gratification is paramount. We don't
have time for anything short of rapid success
from our young NFL QB. Perhaps, that actually is
the right way to view it? Maybe impatience is a
virtue when it comes to NFL QBs? Let me
explain...
There aren't that many Tom
Brady, Drew Brees, Peyton Manning-type QBs
wondering around. We also know, that if a team
gets hold of an elite QB...then that NFL
franchise is set for a decade. Joe Flacco and
Mark Sanchez are fine, but are they going to be
elite? Are they going to be true difference
makers, or just be ever-known as "solid?" If these
"solid" QBs are not going
to change a team's landscape for the next
decade; and thus making them perpetual Super Bowl threats
(and occasional champions)...then where is a
franchise really going with these "solid" QBs?
I'm not slamming the
impatience...I'm more embracing it. If an NFL
team's top goal is to become "World Champs,"
then being a perpetual #3rd-15th best team in the
NFL, year-after-year...isn't going to satisfy for long. Mark
Sanchez can go to back-to-back conference
finals, but he didn't win...and he didn't move
the team ahead this year. To me, it's legit to
ask the question (from a business owners
aspect), "will a Sanchez or Flacco type QB get
me to the next level perpetually?" If the answer
is "no," how long do you "suffer" along with
them, before making an investment in a new QB?
If you are only going to be
a fringe playoff team for years with a
particular QB...would you rather pass on
mediocrity,
and suffer until you do find the next great QB?
Alternatively, would you rather lock into
mediocrity right now...and spend three seasons
finding out it's not all that you hoped, and
then maybe an additional two seasons burning out
the contract. At least a truly bad rookie QB (like
a Blaine
Gabbert), allows you to "fail fast and
move on." A "solid" QB, can keep you
lingering around...wondering, hoping.
A truly solid (not elite)
QB, might have your franchise imprisoned for
years...Joe Flacco, Alex Smith, etc. The
type of QBs that are not good enough to get you
the division title perpetually, nor have your team in
the constant chase for the #1 seed in the
conference, and ultimately...not good enough to
win a Super Bowl, but also not bad enough to
automatically get rid of said QB either. The
type of QB that is just good
enough to keep you out of the top 10-15 NFL Draft
picks, and thus leaving you with statements like..."well,
who else available is better than Alex Smith?"
(as I heard driving in the car this a.m. in a
discussion of whether the 49ers should re-sign
Smith in 2012 or not).
In our statistical analysis of
Matt Barkley (circa 2011), we don't think
we are getting a potential
elite NFL QB...we think we are getting a limited
upside, but not a "bust" downside, NFL QB. An
investment in Barkley (based on today), gets us
a potentially "solid" NFL QB, at best. We'll
get into the details on why we feel that way in
a minute...
It's going to sound like we
are slamming Barkley, but we don't mean to (and
again, he's not even in the 2012 Draft...we're
just pretending that he is). One of the main
thrusts of this report out will be...we're being
sold that Barkley is an "A-level" NFL QB, when
maybe he is a B or B-. A QB that is a B-level
prospect, is a 2nd-Round prospect/payroll...not
a top-10 overall pick/payroll. We would then
take an additional step further and ask, if a QB
is not showing high-upside/elite tendencies...if
he's just "solid," is it worth franchise's time,
effort, and payroll?
The same Barkley vibe that
I am writing now, I would have written similarly
about a T.J. Yates or a Greg McElroy
in 2011...QBs that have some interesting
scouting/passing metrics in our system, and that
we feel are worth a look at a certain point in
the NFL Draft...but not top-10 overall picks.
However, Barkley has the media adoration...and
will be taken much higher than a Yates or
McElroy. It may be a "USC-thing," I don't know.
Something is pressing Barkley as the Andrew
Luck consolation prize in the mainstream
media, but looking at it closer...we see things
that cause us to question the ceiling for
Barkley at the next level.
Incomplete Barkley data,
but...
We will not have all the
data we will need on Matt Barkley to complete
our formula until the NFL Combine process is
over, but from what we do have from his 2011
performance, mixed with neutral assumptions on
the items that we are missing...Barkley would
grade right on the edge of a potentially
decent/solid/good NFL QB in our system analysis.
Barkley is very close to the (bad) edge on some
of our passing metrics...and the more we look at
it, the more that we lean towards a belief that
Barkley will not achieve an elite NFL status.
Barkley's profile in our
system shouts of
a lesser-version of Mark Sanchez for an upside,
and the downside of a mediocre NFL QB dependent
upon personnel, coaching, etc. (i.e. Kyle
Orton). Barkley is right on that fulcrum of a
"solid," but not a spectacular NFL QB
in our formula outputs. However,
Barkley will likely be a top-10 NFL Draft pick
in 2013...with all the Jon Gruden-esque
accolades -- "this guy's a winner," "he works
hard," "he just knows what to do with the ball."
Most fans will gobble up all the Barkley praise
and promise, and then will be left wanting after
a year or two. Not that Barkley will be "bad,"
he's just not likely to be the savior that the
media will make him out to be.
The
2011 Red-Flag concerning performance
The first thing that jumps
out to us is looking at his 2011 performance
through the lens of strength of competition.
Barkley had three games with 5+ passing TDs in
2011, and all of them against inferior
competition.
-
Barkley threw for 5 TD/0 INT against
Syracuse (5-7)
-
Barkley threw for 6 TD/0 INT against UCLA
(6-7)
-
Barkley threw for 6 TD/1 INT against
Colorado (3-10)
When you evaluate a QB more
heavily on his performances against better
competition, then the games (above) that "juice"
Barkley overall stats tremendously...they
mean virtually nothing to our
ratings/evaluations. Barkley threw for a grand
total of 39 TDs/7 INTs in 2011, but minus the
three games above...it discounts down to 22
TDs/6 INTs. Still good results, but less
jaw-dropping than his overall totals...but the
media focus is always on the overall, with rare
strength of opponent discrimination.
Consider the games against
lowly Minnesota (3 TD/0 INT) and Arizona (4 TD/1
INT), and then deduct these two games along with the
three games above, and you now have Barkley with 15 TD/5 INT
in 7 games against better competition. If we
took out the high-pace Oregon game (4 TD/1 INT)
as well...you are now at 11 TD/4 INT in the
remaining six games...which is less than 2
passing TDs per game against stiffer defenses;
and that's being kind to those defenses
(Stanford, Utah, Notre Dame, Washington, Arizona
State, Cal). When you start separating the chafe
from the wheat with Barkley...we start to wonder
-- is this the type of results that we would
want to see in a QB that we might be about to
invest heavily in for the next 5+ years?
It is tough to get a total
read on Barkley (or Sanchez, Booty, Leinart,
etc.), because the USC schedule was so
flimsy. The Pac-10 is like an older-brother
version of the WAC/Mountain West; high-octane
offenses...limited defenses. The better teams that Barkley played
against this season
like Stanford and Oregon, are more known for their
offensive prowess...not great defenses.
USC/Barkley did not face a top-20 defense in
2011 (defenses based on lowest yards per game
allowed).
The toughest team-defenses that Barkley faced in
2011, were defenses ranked between 25th-35th overall (Cal, Stanford, Notre
Dame, Utah)...and Barkley
posted 9 TD/4 INT with 241.7 yards per game
passing against that group. Not bad at all, just
not pushing toward an elite level.
In what we feel were
Barkley's six toughest opposing defenses faced
in 2011, he had just one passing TD in 3 of
those six games. Andrew Luck hasn't had
less than two passing TDs in a game in his last
15 games period. The difference between
solid-good...and great-elite among QBs, is the
difference between multiple Super Bowl
appearances, home playoff games/gate, and
national TV/merchandise relevance...or the
alternative of apathy
and/or mediocrity.
To us, Andrew Luck is so
superior to Matt Barkley...it really sours us
(maybe a bit unfairly) on Barkley as an NFL
investment. However, there are many who
feel/assume that Barkley is the natural #2, to
Luck's #1 (if they were both in this draft). The
difference between "solid" and elite, to an NFL
franchise, could not be more massive in it's
financial impact.
In a conference where
Barkley's USC team is the most dominant talent-wise, and
loaded with great offensive weapons, facing
mostly horrible defenses...are you going to bet
millions of dollars, and hold your franchise
hostage for 3-5 years, on a USC QB that throws for
250 +/- yards with 1-2 TDs per game against
mildly tougher competition? A truly superior QB
at USC, in the year 2011, should have video
game-like numbers against most all teams...not
just producing solid/OK against the good teams,
and then racking it up by totally humiliating
the bad teams. What do you think Andrew Luck
would produce with USC's arsenal of athletic
weapons?
When we look at this data
on Barkley, the term "game manager" leaps to
mind. Barkley could successfully lead an NFL
team, but if you are looking for the next Brady,
Brees, Manning, Rodgers...it doesn't appear to
be Matt Barkley. At least, it doesn't
appear that way at this point. Barkley has
solid/good metrics in our system for a Junior
QB, perhaps he builds upon them and moves
forward with another season of college ball.
However, what we see now...more scares us in
terms of a potential top-10 NFL Draft pick, and
millions in payroll allotted. Is Barkley
NFL-worthy?...yes. Is Barkley the next NFL
elite...in our analysis, no.
Physical issues?
It's not completely damning
in the NFL to be closer to 6'2" in height, but
it's not a great thing either. It is especially
not wonderful if you are not a very mobile QB.
Initial data shows Barkley closer to 6'2".
Barkley does not appear to be an overly "mobile"
QB...he rushed for only 14 yards on 28 carries
this season. Barkley has -41 yards rushing in
his three seasons as a USC starter, Andrew Luck
has 957 rushing yards in that same span. We know
that sacks are counted as negative rushing yards
in college, but even ignoring the rushing
yardage totals...we still do not see anything
that shouts mobile with Barkley...we'll have to
wait for his NFL Combine numbers to make a more
accurate judgment. *Drew Brees is an obvious exception
to the strong NFL elite trend of tall and/or mobile
QBs.
Barkley appears to have a
great throwing motion, and good velocity on his
passes...so no issues that we see there. It did
strike me that watching him on tape...that there
are a lot of sideline/deep balls to his WRs, who
are usually sprinting open by 2-3-4+ yards
cushion. This scenario scares me on USC-type
QBs...how much of all the excitement is the QB,
and how much is the talent around him? Most
capable QBs look good when their first
read/option almost always beats his defender off
the line of scrimmage; and USC has several
highly-athletic weapons that opposing teams with
limited defensive talent cannot contain all
game. Barkley has great stat totals overall, but
if the numbers are being over-inflated from huge
games and big plays, against inferior
competition...what do we really know about how
Barkley translates to the next level?
NFL QB
that Matt Barkley most compares to statistically in college...
Don't you hate it when
prospects in any sport are compared to a player
from the same team that has gone before them? We
apologize in advance, but as we narrowed down a
filter of similar QBs to Barkley in our
database...and the two previous USC QBs came
tumbling out as similar metrics/attributes
across the board (we didn't plan it that way).
Mark Sanchez is the only one of
the four QBs listed below in the comparison
that had a "passing" grade in our mathematical
scouting system (grading as a likely very
good/possiblly elite NFL QB). Barkley is rating a
notch, or two, below Sanchez overall for us as
an NFL prospect (right now). John David Booty
and Jimmy Clausen rated as NFL backups in our
formulas, journeymen type NFL QBs at best.
Barkley winding up between Sanchez and Booty, is
a virtual "no-man's land," as it pertains to his
outlook for elevating an NFL franchise to new
heights.
|
QB |
Yr |
College |
H |
W |
adj Comp Pct |
Adj Yds per Comp |
adj Pass per TD |
adj Pass Per INT |
x |
Yds per game 35 Att |
TDs per game 35 Att |
INTs per game 35 Att |
|
Barkley, Matt |
2012 |
USC |
74.1 |
220 |
65.2% |
10.9 |
14.9 |
49.1 |
|
248.1 |
2.3 |
0.7 |
|
Sanchez, Mark |
2009 |
USC |
74.3 |
227 |
64.7% |
11.3 |
11.4 |
38.3 |
|
256.7 |
3.1 |
0.9 |
|
Booty, John David |
2008 |
USC |
74.4 |
218 |
62.5% |
10.8 |
14.1 |
101.7 |
|
236.6 |
2.5 |
0.3 |
|
Clausen, Jimmy |
2010 |
Notre Dame |
74.6 |
222 |
63.5% |
11.0 |
19.7 |
126.3 |
|
244.7 |
1.8 |
0.3 |
Matt Barkley
Overall
Metrics Scouting Score = 0.801 (B-/C+ grade)
*A score of 0.850+ is where we see a stronger
correlation of QBs going onto be elite, a score
of 1.000+ is "rarefied air."
*The "adj" shown above, means "adjusted"
output in our system analysis...based on
strength of opponent
Summary
Matt Barkley will go back to USC, and have
another big year in 2012...maybe the extra year
will develop him further and show some
statistical trends that push Barkley to the next
level of prospect in our system. For now, we see
Barkley as a very vanilla NFL QB prospect.
Barkley is not overly tall, overly mobile, nor
is he doing anything spectacular (statistically)
in games against elevated competition. We would
not call him an NFL "bust" at all, but we would
not call him a future NFL star either. Barkley will
likely play in the NFL, and have some modicum of
success...his success more reliant on the team,
scheme, coach and surrounding talent. Barkley as
a 2nd-Round NFL Draft selection...we like
it. Barkley as a slightly lower expectation
prospect, and sitting for a year or two behind
an NFL veteran...that would be an ideal
situation.
What's likely to happen to Barkley in
the NFL (based on what we evaluate as of his
Junior season)? Barkley will be drafted very
high in 2013, and will have huge/instant
expectations, and probably stumbles early (like
most all young QBs do)...and
by 2014, we are having the same discussion on
him like we are on Ponder and Gabbert right
about now.
Barkley is a solid NFL QB at best to us, and
there are plenty of solid/serviceable QBs in the
NFL.
Do you really, really want that for your
franchise for the next 3-5+ years? Do you want
to spend multiples of millions of dollars on it?
How much is a "solid" QB worth in the NFL?
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