*An on-going series of
putting college QBs in our mathematical
analysis. We don’t have all the needed data
until the 2011 NFL Combine results are
completely in (including most Wonderlic scores
leaked), but we can assume (neutral) some of it
and we have all the game performance/statistics.
Many Wonderlic scores just came in.
See this link for details
on the College QB rating system --
Predicting the Unpredictable…Projecting a
College QB to the NFL with a Mathematical
Formula
Stanzi, Dalton,
Mallett, Ponder score above the magic mark;
Newton and Locker go to "bust-land"
Chris Mortensen
"ho-hum-ly" tweeted 6 of the main 2011 QB's
Wonderlic scores today...and then asked "what
does it mean?".
What does it mean? What
does it mean! You have to be overlooking the
reality of how the modern day NFL personnel
departments operate, and also overlook how
modern day businesses use these type of tests to
evaluate talent and then also overlook the
history on the Wonderlic scores related to
subsequent QB performance over the past 5-10
years -- overlook all of that to then ask "what
does it mean"?
See this article to at
least open your mind to the Wonderlic QB
debates/possibility --
http://fantasyfootballmetrics.com/Player_News/2011/NFL
Draft/NFL Draft_2010 Carolina Clausen
3-6-2011.htm
Quick
Wonderlic factoids, trends:
-
No Super Bowl Champion
has been led by a QB with a Wonderlic score
below 24, since 2000 (Trent Dilfer)
-
88% of teams with a
winning record in the NFL, in the past 2
seasons, have been led by a QB with a
Wonderlic score of 25+ (of the known scores)
-
The best NFL performing
QB with a Wonderlic score of 24 and under,
drafted in the past 10 years, is (your
choice) of Michael Vick, David Carr,
Vince Young or Jason Campbell
-
None of the elite QBs
of today (Brady, Brees, Manning, Rivers,
Roethlisberger, etc) have scored below a
25 on the Wonderlic
Our
Algorithm Rankings, updated
See this link for details
on our mathematical based College QB rating system --
Predicting the Unpredictable…Projecting a
College QB to the NFL with a Mathematical
Formula
For those that have been
following the series of work on our mathematical
formula and statistical analysis to attempt to
project college QBs to the NFL, you know that
the Wonderlic test score is a fundamental part
of our equation/consideration. With the leaking
of many of these scores today, we have one major
change to the ratings...according to our system
ratings now -- Cam Newton will not be a
potential elite QB and has moved into the more
probable NFL "bust" QB category. With these
updated Wonderlic scores, our QB "Big Board"
looks like:
-
Ricky Stanzi, Iowa
(overall score in our algorithm points to
possible elite)
NFL Draft Picks 2011 - Ricky Stanzi the Best
QB in the 2011 NFL Draft? - Fantasy Football
2011
-
Christian Ponder,
Florida State (if no injury issues
considered, just results based)
NFL Draft 2011 - Christian Ponder - Fantasy
Football 2011
-
Andy Dalton, TCU
(overall ratings projects him to good,
possible great)
NFL Draft 2011 - Andy Dalton - Fantasy
Football 2011
-
Pat Devlin, Delaware
(still evaluating, but so far above the NFL
"good" cutline)
Four QBs in our system
(above) who have the historical grade of "making
it" as a potential good/elite QB in the
NFL. Christian Ponder with injury issues,
is an issue -- so you will also see Ponder below
during his injury issue 2010 season. Pat
Devlin, we are still verifying data on and
have some incomplete/unknown data on that we can
only assume...but as of now he is rating there.
Every 2011 QB listed below, has a rating that
dictates that they cannot be a
future NFL elite QB. Some of them project to be
good, but bust possibilities loom. Jake Locker
and Colin Kaepernick project as almost
guaranteed NFL busts according to our
mathematical evaluations. The group we have as
non-future NFL elite possibility QBs, in order
from best to worst:
-
Greg McElroy, Alabama
(still evaluating, but so far)
-
Ryan Mallett, Arkansas
NFL Draft Picks 2011 - Ryan Mallett Weak in
the Bigger Tests - Fantasy Football 2011
-
TJ Yates, UNC (still
evaluating, but so far)
-
Christian Ponder,
Florida State (with injury issues)
-
Cam Newton, Auburn
NFL Draft 2011 - Cam Newton - Fantasy
Football 2011
-
Blaine Gabbert,
Missouri
NFL Draft Picks 2011 - Gabbert - Fantasy
Football 2011
-
Jake Locker, Washington
NFL Draft Picks 2011 - Jake Locker - Fantasy
Football 2011
-
Colin Kaepernick,
Nevada
http://fantasyfootballmetrics.com/Player_News/2011/NFL
Draft/Player_News/2011/NFL
Draft/Draft_2011_Kaepernick_2-28-11_1.0.htm
**Chris Dieker, Adam
Froman, Nathan Enderle, Taylor Potts (under
evaluation)
I know these lists looks
crazy...almost as if we took the current media
reports and turned them upside down. This is not
based on personal preference or a hunch, it's
based on a statistical model that (see research
report link above for fascinating details!) has
had a 70-80% predictability for the future
good/great QBs, as well as the same for
predicting a 70-80% probability on future
mediocre/bust QBs.
No current day elite QB
wound up on the "bad" list in our system
analysis. Alex Smith and Byron Leftwich
did make the possible NFL elite list, and
obviously aren't. All we are saying is...if you
score above a certain level in our system, that
is where the future elite QB's currently in the
NFL (Brady, Manning, etc) scored at in college.
Only Ricky Stanzi has scored in the
possible elite range for the 2011 QBs. *Andrew
Luck projected to score the highest we've
ever had, but he did not declare for the 2011
Draft.
The
Locker/Newton Wonderlic disaster, ripple
effect...
Jake Locker was as
shaky a first round projection as I've seen in a
long time. His Wonderlic score of 20 is going to
cast him to a minimum 2nd Round pick, but I
think more like a 3-4th Round selection. Partly
on his proven lack of accuracy as a QB last
season, partly because so many QBs are going to
be taken ahead of him that the law of supply and
demand is going to kick in; with Locker as the
loser in the scenario.
Cam Newton was
already falling, now he is going to fall out of
the 1st Round potentially. Mix character
questions with low Wonderlic score, one-year as
a starter and not many throws per game -- he may
shock people with how far he will fall (unless
CINN, SEA or OAK save him).
With Newton and Locker
stock falling, the attention of the fans looking
for a QB savior turns to Blaine Gabbert
and Ryan Mallett. There is going to be
another ripple effect of this coming -- the rise
of Ricky Stanzi, Andy Dalton and Christian
Ponder. Fans may be unaware of the
under-current of buzz happening on those 3 guys,
because the Draft media is not pounding it in
your ears every day...and the "smart" NFL teams
are praying for it to stay that way their draft
stock does not rise, allowing those "smart"
teams to nab them on the cheap.
I think the Draft may turn
against the current "big name" QBs (Newton,
Gabbert, Locker, Mallett). Newton and Locker are
in huge trouble already. As an NFL
team/business, why risk a high pick (and a ton
of money) on a questionable Gabbert or Mallett,
when you can wait and get (to us, and I think to
a growing amount of NFL teams) just as
questionable at worst, but better at best --
Stanzi, or Dalton, or Ponder?
There is so much "hot air"
coming out about Carolina about
taking Blaine Gabbert, oh no wait... now taking
Cam Newton (this week) -- the Panthers are
screaming to the world that they are trying to
bluff the NFL world, to get a team to move up
and grab the Panthers overall #1, luring out a
team lusting to take one of Gabbert or Newton. I
would almost guarantee, either that pick gets
traded or they don't take a QB with the #1. The
Panthers don't want Gabbert or Newton early; and
I think that list of NFL teams is growing.
I also believe so many
teams are counting on drafting Ricky Stanzi
or Andy Dalton (and possibly Christian
Ponder, if not for the injury issues) in the
2nd Round or 3rd Round, that an odd phenomena is
going to happen. Two scenarios to consider, just
to chew on for "grins":
Scenario 1) Gabbert
and Mallett draft stock begins to fall,
as teams realize they don't need to waste a
high/expensive pick on that risk...when
Stanzi, Dalton, Ponder are going to be
available in the early 2nd Round. Teams start to
realize this and an odd run on Stanzi, and/or
Dalton, and/or Ponder could occur in the
late 1st Round; out of fear that suddenly they
realize that many teams have the same thought
process. "Smart" teams (who are good and
therefore have the later round picks) will
realize their "hidden gem" QB, they have been
trying to keep quiet, isn't going to be there in
the late 2nd Round and they may have to play a
draft card earlier than they wanted.
Bill Belichick has 3
of the first 33 picks in this years draft.
Ricky Stanzi is working out with Tom
Brady's QB coach (some say Brady's QB
"guru"), Tom Martinez. We maintain our
algorithm pegs Ricky Stanzi as the next Tom
Brady-like QB, a possible future elite. With so
many picks and a possible Brady 2.0 in his
midst, I would call Belichick the favorite for
drafting Stanzi...as high as at #28 overall. I
predict Stanzi, but it is possible that Dalton
or Ponder could be on his radar as well, but the
Stanzi thing just fits too perfect. Bill
Belichick is not afraid to make a bold pick,
we all know that. That "surprise" QB move will
start a wildfire of many teams having to decide
to take, "now or later", between whomever is
leftover after one of Stanzi, Dalton, Ponder
goes earlier than expected. Don't be shocked if
both Stanzi and Dalton are 1st Round picks, and
Newton, Locker and Mallett are not.
Scenario 2)
Gabbert, Mallett and maybe even Newton get
snatched up quickly in the 1st Round by the
"questionable" QB decision making teams (OAK,
CINN, TENN...maybe MINN, SEA, DEN, MIA
as well). If they are all taken, the "Big-3" are
off the board quick; and assuming/knowing there
is hidden "lust" for Stanzi, Dalton,
Ponder...there could be a stampede after them.
"Smart" teams drafting in the late 1st Round,
now have to worry if a group of teams in need
that can be smart (ARI, CLE, SF) are
going to take Stanzi, Dalton, Ponder in the
early 2nd Round now. The big-time "smarter"
teams like NE, PHI, PITT are watching
this develop and have a choice to make (if you
accept my premise at all)..."how can we pass
up a potential future elite QB in late Round-1
now, if they won't be there by the time
we pick again in the 2nd"? Only Bill
Belichick doesn't have to worry about that,
he has 4 of the first 60 picks. This scenario
may start a "shock" run on Stanzi, Dalton and
maybe Ponder in the late 1st Round.
Either way, I think this
Wonderlic news "means" -- Newton and
Locker will fall, Mallett has already fallen
before any news of the Wonderlic (Mallett scored
a safe 26). Gabbert is starting to get shaky
question marks on his passing skills. All of it
leading to the Stanzi, Dalton and Ponder group
starting to move up the draft boards within the
next few weeks. The next few weeks is going to
be a wild juxtaposition of the QB mock order, it
is going to blow the mind of so many that were
swallowing/gulping the QB "kool-aid" given out
early.
If you think this is crazy
talk, ask yourself why do you think that? If your
answer is, "well, I haven't heard anyone else
talking about this" -- free your mind,
consider the possibilities! Were you swallowing
Jimmy Clausen and Brady Quinn as
Top-5 picks? Because they were just that on Mock
Drafts around this time in their draft seasons
-- and what ultimately happened? What did you
know or think about Joe Flacco or
Kevin Kolb before they flew up the Mock
boards towards the end, and then went higher
than expected?
Sit back and enjoy the next
few weeks, as one of the best QB draft soap
operas we will have been privilege to witness is
about to occur. The world's greatest "poker
game" is getting ready to kick into high gear.
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