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By R.C. Fischer
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  4/9/2011

Ricky Stanzi to the Patriots, Colts, 49ers or...

An 2011 NFL Draft Status Update on Iowa QB -- Ricky Stanzi

Life has been interesting since we first published statistical research reports on why Ricky Stanzi may be the #1 QB in the 2011 NFL Draft. A few people are thinking we are nuts, and that's cool. A few people are thinking that I might be Ricky Stanzi's cousin or best friend, which would be cool to be the relative or part of the posse' of a future millionaire...but sadly no. Most of our readers, and many new ones, have been intrigued on our rationale on why we feel that Ricky Stanzi is the top QB of the 2011 NFL Draft class. See our original work for more background -- NFL Draft Picks 2011 - Ricky Stanzi the Best QB in the 2011 NFL Draft? - Fantasy Football 2011

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*Note that Mel Kiper now may be getting on board with this Stanzi idea too, based on comments as of late. Many "experts", 1 by 1, are now saying Stanzi may be the best QB in the 2011 NFL Draft when we look back in a few years, but he is a 3rd-4th Round pick still in their mind. So #1 = I'm not as crazy as you might have thought 2 months ago, and #2  = Will these "experts" please stop hedging their bets! They have (potentially) stumbled onto a major story and are hitting their brakes right at the finish line. Saying Stanzi has 1st Round talent and yet projecting him as a 3rd Round Pick is like having a blackjack at the casino and then taking the house insurance to protect your payout...they are playing it safe to claim victory no matter how the reality plays out on Draft-Day. If the media starts thinking Stanzi may be the best talent (long term) among the QBs...what do you think the NFL teams think already? Actually the media rarely thinks anything on its own, likely the story from private meetings etc is starting to leak from inside sources. NFL teams (especially smart ones) aren't going to sit back on the best QB available in the draft and wait until the 3rd Round to snatch him because that's what a media commentator says. Actually, the "smart" NFL teams want the media to think that...they are desperate for them to think it and say it to help them in this "poker game".

The question that I get the most from our readers about Ricky Stanzi now is -- "where do you think Stanzi will be drafted" and/or "do you really think he could be a 1st Round QB"? I typically stay in the realm of statistical analysis, but the Stanzi NFL Draft questions to my inbox have been many -- so I thought I would put together an investigation on where Stanzi might be taken. There is an interesting business dynamic story here as well, a dynamic that has prompted many to ask of me -- "why is everyone missing the story on Stanzi"? So here goes on "connecting all those dots"...

Perhaps we should flip the pages of history back to 2007 to find the answer to the question, "why is everyone missing this Stanzi story". I could have concocted my own theories (which I have), but then I remembered the 2007 NFL Draft and I didn't need to design a new theory...I just needed to report out on a very similar; and actual recent NFL Draft event in 2007.

As you read on, please indulge me the following labels -- Teams that I refer to as "smart" teams, are the traditionally smart personnel teams of the past decade (NE, IND, PHI, SD, GB, PIT, etc). Not infallible teams, but definitely proven to be "smarter" and typically one-step ahead of everyone else. "Smart" teams rarely pick early in a draft and usually are trying to trade backwards in the NFL Draft.  Teams that I refer to as "dumb" teams, are traditionally highly questionable personnel decision making teams, often drafting early (due to poor record), taking WRs too early in the Draft; and often trading up to make picks (trading with "smart" teams who are moving back). No offense to your favorite team if I call them "dumb" and I do not want to be "mean" or say it flippantly, but the NFL is a big business and there are some incredibly well run organizations as well as absolutely awful run organizations -- as is true of all industries, the NFL is no exception. "Dumb" NFL teams of the past decade are teams such as OAK, CINN, DET, CLE, WASH, etc. Their record speaks for itself the past 10+ years. *"Dumb" teams can turn their fortunes around at any time, but have definitely not shown an ability to do so in the last decade -- i.e. Cleveland under Mike Holmgren may take a turn upward now, too soon to tell.

 

2007 NFL Draft rewind -- a review of QBs selected

Rewind the tape to 2007, JaMarcus Russell was most everyone's #1 QB overall; and if he wasn't -- Brady Quinn was. As we know, JaMarcus Russell winds up with Oakland (big shock). The Cleveland Browns gave up a future 1st Round pick plus the 2007 #36 pick (to Dallas, later Dallas flipped to Philly) to grab Brady Quinn. Every team has "whiffed" on an early draft pick at some point, but it seems like Cleveland and Oakland have made more than their fair share this decade.

To everyone's "shock and horror" the Philadelphia Eagles broke from conventional media wisdom and made maneuvers (with Dallas, who had just got the picks from Cleveland to get Quinn) to select Kevin Kolb with the 36th pick.

At the time, Kolb was rated as the #6 overall QB in the Draft. "Why would they do that, they already have Donovan McNabb!", the people shouted. "Smart" teams are smart. "Smart" teams know when they see value and they plan ahead; and they know the potential next great NFL QBs ahead of most of the NFL teams (and Draft Gurus)...and they are not afraid to "reach" early for a possible elite QB before other "smart" teams do. "Smart" teams know they are so smart at the art of the NFL Draft...and they know that there will be plenty of opportunities to find good players at other positions as the draft unfolds. "Dumb" teams rush headfirst into the early picks getting the media-hyped players, paying them too much payroll and ruining their business for years. "Smart" teams don't operate the way "dumb" teams do. The "smart" teams play "Draft Poker" way better than the other teams; and they know it.

You may think, "well what has Kevin Kolb ever done"? Obviously, a bizarre situation for Kolb this season, bad in one quarter of the opening game, then good/great in Weeks 4-7...but ultimately took a backseat to Michael Vick. Whatever you may think of Kolb -- review the current value of the other 2007 Top-6 drafted QB's:

  • JaMarcus Russell (#1 overall), released by Oakland
  • Brady Quinn (#22 overall), traded away and current 3rd string QB for Denver
  • John Beck (#40 overall), released by Miami, traded by Baltimore to Washington for Doug Dutch (who can forget that trade?)
  • Drew Stanton (#43), 2nd or 3rd string for Detroit
  • Trent Edwards (#92), released and now 2nd or 3rd string for Jacksonville

What has Kevin Kolb done? Kolb was good enough for Philly to pay a ton of money to him and then trade Donovan McNabb away. Kolb must have done something to warrant teams in 2011 to want to trade top draft picks for him currently. Kolb is the only 2007 QB that has any value to the NFL 4 years later. *For the record, Kevin Kolb was our #1 rated QB that year and scored in the elite class in our system...and personally I think he will be an elite NFL QB. See more detail on that at NFL Draft Picks 2011 - Projecting a College QB - Fantasy Football 2011

Ricky Stanzi is potentially the Kevin Kolb story of 2011. Stanzi, like Kolb was, is a current media #6-7 QB overall for the Draft. Like the Kolb situation of 2007 (Philly making a trade to move up to get him much earlier than experts expected), the "smart" teams are potentially going to have a feeding frenzy in the early 2nd Round or late 1st Round to out-do each other in trying to secure Stanzi (if I'm right about Stanzi).

 

What Tom Brady and Peyton Manning have to do with all of this...

  • Joe Montana last played QB in the NFL at age 38
  • John Elway last played QB in the NFL at age 38
  • Dan Marino last played QB in the NFL at age 38 

Peyton Manning will be 35.5 years old to start the 2011 season, and Tom Brady will be 34. Theoretically, they have 3-4 years of football left; and maybe 2-3 good/great seasons left.

A "smart" team/smart business prepares and plans ahead. 2011 or 2012 is the time for the Patriots and Colts to make their QB "succession plans". A media and scout consensus/highly probable elite QB such as Andrew Luck is not likely going to be available to Indy or New England in 2012. Potentially the Colts and Pats best window of opportunity is 2011, taking advantage of the silly hype around the seriously flawed QBs (according to me) such as Cam Newton and Blaine Gabbert, and let a Ricky Stanzi (or possibly an Andy Dalton) fall to them in the 2nd Round. The problem with that theory is -- I think the list of teams thinking that same, "Kevin Kolb circa 2007" thought process is growing; and may force Stanzi (like Kolb) and/or Dalton to the very early 2nd Round...or even late 1st Round -- way ahead of the "experts" projections.

Do you think that is improbable? Why do you think that? Because, the media isn't talking about Ricky Stanzi...like they didn't talk about Kevin Kolb? The "smart" teams are loving the focus on Newton, Locker, Gabbert, Mallett, Kaepernick. I think the "smart" teams do all they can to push that story/hype along as well (*see NE bluffing DEN into taking Tim Tebow 1st Round 2010).

Here is my 2 cents take on how I see the teams in play for Stanzi, and the connect-a-dots theory on why it might be possible:

 

#1  Most Likely Destination -- New England Patriots

  • New England was the 2nd team to schedule a private meeting with Stanzi (we know how dumb Belichick is)
  • Kirk Ferentz, Iowa Head Coach of Ricky Stanzi...and former NFL Assistant with Bill Belichick in Cleveland. Think Ferentz may have shared some info on Stanzi with Belichick? Enough info shared to schedule a private meeting, although I'm sure the Pats were on it before me or anyone else.
  • Ricky Stanzi is currently working with Tom Brady's QB coach and QB guru -- Tom Martinez.
  • NE has picks #17, #28, and #33...all a great range to "reach" for Stanzi (the media will say "reach", like on Kolb)
  • There needs to be an heir apparent to Tom Brady soon

# 2  Most Likely Destination -- San Francisco 49ers

  • San Fran needs/wants a QB, and have been linked more and more to Stanzi
  • Jim Harbaugh, the new Head Coach and a possible QB guru (Andrew Luck?) as well -- Stanzi may fit Harbaugh's style perfectly
  • Jim Harbaugh reportedly was at the recent Iowa Pro-Day to scout and meet with Stanzi
  • One of Jim Harbaugh's agents in the negotiations of leaving Stanford for San Fran, was long time football agent -- Jack Bechta. Jack Bechta is also, coincidentally, Ricky Stanzi's agent.
  • San Fran has a league high 12 picks, including #7 and # 35...if San Fran trades down with #7 or up from #35 -- it may be part of a Stanzi play if they feel Stanzi at #35 will be jumped by New England at #33

# 3  Most Likely Destination -- Indianapolis Colts

  • There needs to be an heir apparent to Peyton Manning, and it's not Curtis Painter
  • The Colts have had strong ties, and success, with Iowa top prospects (Bob Sanders, Dallas Clark, and Pat Angerer)
  • Bill Polian has been a genius in the NFL Draft, so I just assume he will be kicking the tires on Stanzi if Belichick is too...then 1+1 = "smart" teams are circling the wagons. If Polian and Belichick get on the same QB...then I would only be more excited on this "surprise Stanzi story" if the Kansas City Chiefs GM (and recently former Patriots GM) Scott Pioli was on Stanzi as well.

# 4  Most Likely Destination -- Kansas City Chiefs

  • What do you know?, Scott Pioli may be interested too...KC had a private visit with Stanzi as well
  • When Pioli came into the Chiefs GM job and ultimately let Herman Edwards go, the main coaching target Pioli was rumored to go after for the KC job opening was...current Iowa Head Coach, Kirk Ferentz
  • KC has picks #21 and #55, and they have Matt Cassel...so I'm not sure they want to be as aggressive as SF, NE or IND

# 5 Most Likely Destination -- Cleveland Browns

  • I don't believe Cleveland is sold on Colt McCoy (for good reason, in my opinion) as their future
  • Guessing the 2011 QB who fits the style of Mike Holmgren -- he may be looking for a QB who is "pro-style" offense/experienced, west-coast style teachable, accurate/not turnover prone, multi-year college starter, and can handle/is used to cold weather...with bigger than average hand size. (Stanzi is the fit for all of the descriptions, with Gabbert and Mallett kinda fitting some parts of it)
  • Cleveland has picks #5 and #37, they wouldn't take Stanzi at #5...but #37 is probably about as late as he would be available (or they can trade up a few slots from #37)
  • If you see the Philadelphia Eagles meeting privately with Stanzi, then likely Cleveland will be on the same vibe. Holmgren/Reid are past connected and have similar football philosophy...when Kevin Kolb had an issue to start 2010, the Browns were (reportedly) the first one on the phones inquiring if he was available in a trade.

# 6  Most Likely Destination -- Philadelphia Eagles

  • Andy Reid is in a very tough box, that I don't think he wants to be in. Michael Vick is not the long-term answer, Kevin Kolb is. However, Reid would be destroyed for dumping Vick for Kolb right now. Reid can't keep Kolb happy for another year either, and Kolb's value is better to trade right now than let walk in a year...and Kolb's value is much better to trade if Reid has Stanzi in hand. If Philly drafts Stanzi at #23, see how fast a Kolb trade announcement is made. More likely, Kolb is traded ahead of time (if NFL rules allow), then the Stanzi market will really heat up.
  • Reid was the author of the Kolb Draft "shocker" in 2007, so he doesn't care what the media thinks of a "reach" QB draft pick
  • See the last bullet point on the Cleveland Browns note above, if Cleveland is wanting to meet privately...then Andy Reid likely has the same thought process as well

# 7  Most Likely Destination -- Miami Dolphins

  • Bill Parcells is gone now, but I have it on good authority that Parcells is a big Stanzi fan (and Stanzi fits the Parcells QB theory/model/profile)
  • Miami met with Stanzi in a private meeting 
  • I just think that Miami, with their owners "M.O." will go for a more "sexy" QB, and they only have 1 pick in the first 2 Rounds, so I can't see them using #15 overall on Stanzi, or their fans would revolt (for the moment). If Miami trades back, then watch out.

The other NFL "smart" teams (SD, GB, PIT, etc) either have a young(er) QB and/or don't need to get in a higher-stakes bidding war with the other "smart" teams in QB want/need. The Pats and Colts have QB motivations for the first time in a long time -- and you know they are looking ahead to the future because they are smartly run businesses.

The "dumb" NFL teams are not going to have the guts or internal evaluations to take Stanzi early, and if the "dumb" teams expect him to be there in the early 2nd Round -- I think that Pioli, and/or Polian and/or Belichick will sense if the market on Stanzi is moving earlier and earlier in the 2nd Round, possibly forcing the Colts or Pats to use a late 1st Round pick on Ricky Stanzi. The Patriots have an excess of earlier draft picks to burn one a little early on Stanzi.

I think Stanzi is a conventional wisdom #45-60 overall pick in most NFL War Rooms right now, but the connect-the-dots on Stanzi with Belichick, and maybe Polian, and/or Harbaugh could move Stanzi toward a #30-40 pick overall in Mock Drafts by the time the real draft hits...and then he could become a possible "shock" pick at #17 by NE or a #22 by Indy, as they try to outduel each other.

...or maybe I'm crazy, and/or Ricky Stanzi's cousin.

I'm not putting my career on the line projecting that Stanzi will definitely be taken in the 1st Round, although I think he should be...and I do see a concurrence of events taking place that I would be willing to bet on it. At minimum, I'd like our readers to at least consider the possibility of Ricky Stanzi as a 1st Round Draft pick as being plausible. At maximum, it would be my pleasure for our computer servers to be taken down as my email blows up when/if it happens!

If the Stanzi Draft story doesn't play out this way, my Stanzi as a great "sleeper" pick article is ready roll. If the Stanzi Draft story does happen this way (or even if it doesn't), you should definitely buy our 2011 Fantasy Football Draft Guide on sale this summer (even if you don't play Fantasy Football) with 400+ players evaluated statistically!

 

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