Now I'm going to get hate mail from Georgia
fans...and that's OK. I love the passion of
football fans; it's great to "debate" individual
football players skills. Before you do send the
hate mail, please read the case I'm about to
make -- and keep in mind that it is not a report
where I think that A.J. Green is going to
be necessarily bad in the NFL (although I think
there is a risk of that), the problem is that I
think he is going to be drafted way ahead of
where he should be. It is going to be a bad
decision for an NFL franchise to use their
resources in such a way.
High Draft pick WRs, we've statistically
debated; have been a terrible investment for an
NFL business/team. If you're going to make a
huge investment in a WR, you had better get (you
would assume) an absolutely elite, "never been
seen before", top-of-the class type WR...and
that's not A.J. Green. There are actually
(to us) 2-3 compelling, potentially elite type
WRs in the 2011 NFL Draft...it's just that
A.J. Green is not one of them. *to see
more on the case of why high draft pick WRs have
been such poor NFL decisions, please see
additional research on that --
NFL Draft 2011 - Why are you so sure Julio Jones
and A.J. Green are NFL "Locks"? A Look at the
Comedy that is WR Draft Picks in the NFL -
Fantasy Football 2011
The fact that there are so many other
intriguing, better skilled WRs than A.J.
Green is the exact reason why we call this
the worst business decision an NFL team is going
to make (on the assumption Green is taken in the
first 15 picks). Instead of rattling off which
WRs might be better, I'm just going to look at
why A.J. Green is "nothing special" in elite NFL
WR terms.
Stop and think for a second on why you might
have considered A.J. Green a future elite
NFL WR. Really...think about it for a second.
For most non-NFL scouts/general "fans" -- there
are only 2 possible answers to that question:
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You've seen A.J. Green, and you
think he is "awesome".
-
Everyone (media, Draft gurus) has been
saying that Julio Jones and A.J
Green are the hands down elite of the WR
class, and "they" must know what they are
doing. Nothing wrong with that, we outsource
everything in America -- you don't have the
time and wherewithal to have a scouting
department in your living room. You trust
the draft guides and TV shows, and it
seemingly makes sense....and I used to do
that too. Until I realized the Draft Gurus
and the "bad" NFL teams, have a horrific
track record on drafting WRs in the Top-15,
actually there is a horrific track record on
the first 3 WRs taken in every draft; no
matter where the top-3 WRs are taken.
If you've seen A.J. Green, and your
argument is "he is awesome". You might as well
turn away now, no matter what I say -- it's
probably not going to change your opinion, and
you are going to hate me. If you arrived at your
A.J. Green opinion via the media
mega-hype, please read (this is our second hint) our article "Why are you
so sure Julio Jones and A.J. Green
are NFL "Locks?"; and then complete the
rest of this article.
What is so special about
A.J. Green?
What would make A.J. Green so special
(or any WR)? What are some things that come to
mind? For me it would be -- unbelievable size
and reach (like Randy Moss or Calvin
Johnson), or unbelievable speed (like
Calvin Johnson, or Randy Moss, or
Mike Wallace) , or unbelievable hands (like
Larry Fitzgerald), or an unusual
combination of strength and speed (like
Hakeem Nicks or Vincent Jackson). The
fact of the matter is, this NFL Draft has a
couple WRs with some nice/elite individual
physical characteristics, but A.J. Green
is not one of them. Let's start to pick the
skills of A.J. Green apart (again, not to
say that Green is bad...just not elite or
revolutionary).
Faster than a speed in
bullet?
Looking at A.J. Green's speed metrics:
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Green ran the 5th fastest 40-yard dash
of the 2011 of the 15 "Big WRs" (Big =
6'0+ and 205+, or 6'2+ no matter weight)
we are mainly focusing on as NFL prospects.
He ran a very good, historically not great,
4.48 40-yard dash.
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Green was tied for 4th best (of 15 "Big
WRs") in the 20-yard dash
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Green was 7th of 15 in the 10-yard dash
among our "Big WRs"
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8 of our 15 "Big WRs" ran the 3-cone
agility/speed drill faster than A.J Green
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6 of our 15 "Big WRs" ran the shuttle
agility drill faster than A.J. Green
Green is not the "top dog" among our "big
WRs" in any speed or agility metrics, he is not
even a Top-3 in any particular area. I'm not
selling you on incredible speed being critically
important for a "Big WR" (because actually it is
not, per say), I'm just saying anyone who says
Green is a Top-15 pick because of how fast he
is, hasn't done their homework. Green has decent
and OK agility relative the "Big WR" group, but
nothing special about his speed and agility.
*If you send an email to me telling me I'm crazy
and it has the phrase "game speed" in
it...please save time and don't send it. Green
is not any faster than anyone else in this
draft, not really even close to it...and that's
a fact. He's not slow, just not elite WR fast.
Able to leap tall
buildings in a single bound?
Something I like to look at is a WR's
vertical leap measurement, because there is some
statistical correlation to it looking ahead at
college-to-NFL performance. I personally think
it shows athleticism as well, but more
importantly the historical data shows some
positive/negative correlations. A.J. Green
did not record a great vertical leap on a
historical comparison, nor very good in the
perspective of the fact that 8 other of our "Big
WRs" measured a vertical leap that was better
than Green's.
Maybe you retort -- "but he's 6'3+, he
doesn't have to leap!". Measuring 6'3 is a
great attribute, but there are 4 other (of our
15) "Big WRs" that are as tall as or taller than
Green -- and 2 of those 4 WRs are faster, more
agile and overall more athletic. A.J. Green
is not special in height, speed, or vertical
among this year's WR class or historically among
WRs...but again, he is good; just not Top-15
overall selection great -- in a physical sense.
A.J Green also had a decent bench
press for a WR, but considering that 5 other
"Big WRs" had better bench press results...again
Green comes up as nice; but not elite on WR
strength either.
..."All that physical
stuff, doesn't matter...because, he can
just make plays"!
I know, you've seen him make some great
catches...probably for most of us, we saw the
great plays on an ESPN News highlight reel as we
were busy watching another team...or we are fed
the same 2-3 catch highlight "loop" played on
NFL Draft analysis shows. Can we really make a
judgment that A.J. Green is the best WR
in the NFL Draft from a few highlights? Is
A.J Green the only WR in college football
that made great plays in 2010? For some
perspective, let's look at some basic 2010
season statistics for a few other top "Big WRs"
on most everyone's Draft Board (Torrey
Smith and Randall Cobb are "small
WRs" in our system):
Receptions per game:
- 6.4 = Jones, Ala (minus the Ole Miss
game)
- 6.3 = Green, Ga
- 5.5 = Hankerson, Mia, Fla
- 4.3 = Baldwin, Pitt
- 3.4 = Toliver, LSU
Yards per catch:
- 16.1 = Hankerson, Mia, Fla
- 15.5 = Baldwin, Pitt
- 14.9 = Green, Ga
- 14.5 = Jones, Ala
- 14.1 = Toliver, LSU
TDs per game:
- 1.0 = Hankerson, Mia, Fla
- 1.0 = Green, Ga
- 0.6 = Jones, Ala
- 0.4 = Baldwin, Pitt
- 0.4 = Toliver, LSU
Yards per game:
- 94.2 = Green, Ga
- 93.8 = Jones, Ala
- 88.9 = Hankerson, Mia, Fla
- 63.2 = Baldwin, Pitt
- 44.5 = Toliver, LSU
A.J. Green is ranked #1 in two of the
above performance categories (actually tied for
1st in one of them), and in the Top-3 in all of
them...but so is Leonard Hankerson. Why
isn't Leonard Hankerson a Top-15
WR, purely looking at 2010 performance? If you
stare down these statistics, you really can't
say that Jones or Green (or Hankerson) are that
much better than each other...or if you take it
another way, there may be 3 very good WRs in the
2011 Big WR group -- a supply/demand issue that
makes a "good" WR not as valuable to take with a
high draft pick.
Size matters?
A.J. Green grades out well on his
actual performance metrics (and so do many
others as you see above). Green's college
performance is comparable to a lot of future
good/great NFL WRs. However, when I filter the
list of current NFL WRs who have graded out
above average in all key performance metrics --
A.J. Green has something (bad) in common
with the ones on the list who graded high on
college performance, but ultimately didn't
translate as well to the NFL...the issue is
"Hand Size". A.J Green has a below
average hand-size, and that may not seem like a
big issue; but it potentially is. Most all the
future elite WRs did not have near the smaller
hand-size measurement that A.J. Green
does, but many future mediocre WRs did. The
hand-size issue could definitely come into play
if drafted by a cold weather franchise.
Take a ruler, spread your fingers out as best
you can -- and measure from tip of your thumb to
the tip of your pinky. Then consider that
A.J. Green's hand-size measurement was 9.2",
and typically the more translatable WRs to the
NFL are longer than that. Not a 100% rule -- but
the odds are stacked against the nice college
performance, but smaller hands WR.
NFL WRs that best
matches A.J. Green in our system:
Looking for a match for A.J. Green led
us to search the system for "Big WRs" that had
very good (not great or awesome) performance
metrics across the board, plus a little on the
mediocre side for speed/agility...as well as WRs
with a smaller hand size and smaller in
weight/frame. Sidney Rice is a decent
match, as is Eric Decker -- both are
taller, smaller hand, not overly fast or agile,
and very good WRs in college. I like both Rice
and Decker, they are just not "elite"; and
neither were selected in the first round/in the
first 15 picks of the draft. Rice was a 2nd
Round selection in 2007 and Decker a 3rd Round
pick last year. Which goes to my overall point
of Green is good, but not elite/Top-15 overall
worthy.
LEGEND FOR RATINGS:
- SPEED = a combination of speed
measurements from the NFL Combine/Pro-Days,
measured against our data base on similar
WRs
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AGILITY = a combination of
agility test measurements from the NFL
Combine/Pro-Days, measured against our data
base on similar WRs
-
HANDS = a combination of
performance metrics and physical metrics to
grade "hands" or ability to catch the ball
translated ahead to the NFL. A
unique/private metric of ours.
-
TD = a combination of
performance metrics and physical metrics to
grade "TD catching prowess", a kinda "red
zone" factor translating ahead to the NFL. A
unique/private metric of ours.
*school grade system, A+ being the best in
class historically all the way to F- as
historically the worst combination of metrics --
all based on what WRs with those measurements
did (or didn't do) in the NFL.
|
LAST |
FIRST |
Draft Year |
COLLEGE |
H |
H |
W |
40-y |
Hands |
Speed |
Agility |
TD |
|
Green |
AJ |
2011 |
Georgia |
6 |
3.6 |
211 |
4.48 |
B+ |
B |
B |
B |
|
Mitchell |
Marko |
2009 |
Nevada |
6 |
3.5 |
218 |
4.46 |
B+ |
B+ |
C |
B+ |
|
Rice |
Sidney |
2007 |
South Carolina |
6 |
3.5 |
200 |
4.51 |
B- |
B- |
C |
B+ |
|
Decker |
Eric |
2010 |
Minnesota |
6 |
3.1 |
217 |
4.54 |
B- |
C |
B- |
B- |
A.J. Green Overall
System Score = 0.714
* See this story for background on our system
scoring methodology --
NFL Draft 2011 - In Search of the Next Great NFL
WR -- a Mathematical Analysis of College WRs -
Fantasy Football 2011
2011 NFL DRAFT OUTLOOK
Green is going to go Top-15 it looks like,
and possibly as the #1 WR off the board. I think
A.J. Green is going to be a good NFL WR
based on our system analysis, but a long shot to
be elite. Given there are a few 2011 WRs that
our system rates just as high and higher, it is
a tragic business decision to tie up resources
by expending a Top-15 pick on just a "good" WR
who has nothing particularly special about them
and considering there are several other WRs just
as good/better that will go later/cheaper in the
draft. Green would be a nice 2nd Round pick, but
I don't think that is going to happen.
In my mind's eye, I had never seen anything
like Calvin Johnson, Randy Moss or
Larry Fitzgerald when I watched them in
college/on tape, and our mathematical analysis
agreed with that as well. I've/we've seen
several A.J. Green-types come from
college into the NFL...and that should scare any
NFL franchise from using a high pick on him.
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